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Behind The Mask of Convention Supporters – “whacking away” at our Constitution

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Representative Sickles may have meant this as a warning of what would be the attitude of Delegates to a convention – as opposed to what he himself would  do as a Delegate to a convention.

But the point is: We don’t want anyone “whacking away” at our Constitution – and Delegates to an Art. V convention would have the power to do just that….

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February 6, 2015 - Posted by | Amendments to the Constitution, Article V, Article V Convention, constitutional convention, Convention of States project, re-writing the Constitution | , , , , , , ,

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  1. PH, I respect your interpretation of the constitution and framing documents very much. You have proper regard for an Article V convention. I focus on constitutional enforcement, which implies defense and restoration of government under it. I’m aware of the act of 1871 as an infiltration of the federal government, where it turned away from the original intents of the framing documents, the Declaration of Independence.

    I too am wary of a convention, but all things considered I realize that there perhaps is no way to defend or enforce the constitution with its somewhat hidden deficiencies that allowed the civil war to open the door to infiltration.

    I’m convinced that a prime deficiency is that Article V does not define PREPARATION for a convention. This is something we must attend to if a convention is to happen and assure that the people are “the rightful masters of the congress and the courts.” (Lincoln 1859).

    Here is some simple logic from the Declaration of Independence. The framers defined unalienable rights from God, then a right to alter or abolish government destructive to those rights. A proper question arises; “How did the framers intend that the people have the power to alter or abolish government powerful enough to be destructive to unalienable rights?” The only logical answer is that the framers intended for the people to be adequately unified deriving their power from their numbers. This raises another question; “What did the framers intend to serve the purpose to enable the unity adequate to create the power to alter or abolish?” The only logical answer is FREEDOM OF SPEECH was to have that purpose.

    There is no doubt in my mind that we have ventured into an area that the framers were not able to conceive of. It relates to the power of the press to reach masses beyond their experience with technologies they had not imagined mixed with the abilities of the human minds two hemispheres, intuitive and cognitive, and the differences between how the written word and spoken words are processed.

    Logically all of our rights have a purpose, but when I try to introduce the purpose of free speech as ultimately, legally, constitutionally being to enable the unity to alter or abolish, peoples minds seem to stop working. Hopefully your mind does not when confronting this issue because my intuition tells me it is vital to our retention to defense of and enforcement of the law of our land.

    To close this message, I will only say to those that want and work for a convention, “Fine, but prepare the American people to know and define constitutional intent before a general convention proceeds so they can assure their states only propose and ratify amendments that have constitutional intent.” I see three preparations that probably could only done by amendment. Therefore the concept of “PREPARATORY AMENDMENT” becomes a requisite to assure all amendments have constitutional intent. One; End the abridging of the purpose of free speech, Two; Secure the vote, Three; effect campaign finance reform.

    Please comment on this message and share your opinion, particularly on the purpose of free speech as a new American revelation into the uses and functions of a right previously thought to be well understood, or the government over them related to that right.

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    Comment by Christopher A. Brown | May 27, 2015 | Reply

    • Humm, Many things need to be said about your comment. For now, I’ll make only two comments – which go to the foundation of your comment:

      1. Nothing I write is my “interpretation”. As a People, we have been conditioned to believe that there is no such thing as FACT or TRUTH – there are only individual “opinions” or “interpretations”. Disabuse yourself of that pernicious lie.
      I set forth the original intent of our Constitution as explained by The Federalist Papers and other original source writings of that era.

      2. The act of 1871? You’re kidding, right? What is this Act and give a link to the original Act, so we can all have a look at it.

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | May 28, 2015 | Reply

  2. The hardest thing is after everything is said and done and you have the documents to back everything up, to realize beyond a doubt these evil individuals are all set to destroy America and believe they all are going to come out on top.

    It would almost be worth it to still be around to watch these selfish evil doers begin eating each other because their ego’s will not allow them to do anything different believing they will all be in charge. Similar to the mother eating her young! I hope their deaths are horrible for what they are doing to our children and our country!

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    Comment by Dianemarie | February 27, 2015 | Reply

    • Yes, I fear they do mean to destroy beyond repair our Constitutional Republic.
      Let us fight them while we can and leave their Judgment in God’s hands. After all, some of them may repent in time. People have changed their minds on this issue from supporting to opposing a convention.

      But those who have their eyes open do have much to answer for.

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | February 27, 2015 | Reply

  3. If I understand the process correctly between Amendments proposed by a convention versus introduced by Congress itself, I don’t understand why those who advocate for a convention don’t simply find a Conservative lawmaker they trust (e.g., Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Justin Amash, Thomas Massie, Walter Jones) and simply have him introduce a constitutional amendment.

    Here’s what I mean:

    METHOD #1: Congressman X introduces a bill to amend the constitution.
    1. Amendment receives 2/3 vote of House.
    2. Amendment receives 2/3 vote of Senate.
    3. Congress sends Amendment to all 50 state legislatures for their ratification (or alternatively Congress can choose to have states ratify it through state ratifying conventions)
    4. Once 3/4 of the states ratify, the Amendment is adopted and becomes part of the Constitution.

    METHOD #2: Applications from 2/3 of the state legislatures for Congress to call a Convention-for-Proposing-Amendments
    1. Congress calls the Convention (specifies time, place, purpose of the Convention, and how many delegates each state may send, and how many votes each state will have?)
    2. At the convention, delegates approve their rules, elect the chairman/secretary of the convention, establish Committee on Detail, Committee on Style, etc.
    3. Convention finishes its work drafting the amendment (assuming it can be confined to the scope applied for by the states) and sends the Amendment to Congress.
    4. Congress sends Amendment to all 50 state legislatures for their ratification (or alternatively Congress can choose to have states ratify it through state ratifying conventions)
    5. Once 3/4 of the states ratify, the Amendment is adopted and becomes part of the Constitution.

    Why would I trust the people other states will choose as delegates any more than the people they have chosen to be Congressmen and Senators?

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    Comment by John | February 26, 2015 | Reply

    • John, I think I love you.
      THAT is what James Madison told States to do: when they want an amendment to the Constitution, they should instruct their State Delegations to Congress to propose it in Congress!
      And you are very astute.

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | February 27, 2015 | Reply

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  6. Hi sweet lady Publius! 2/6/15
    I have a question.
    I’m confused, I esteem Sarah Palin for her beliefs and her continued boldness in spite of all the attacks against her and her family because of speaking out sharing with great convictions her (right) opinions and beliefs on many important issues of our time.
    Do you know WHY she has come out recently in favor of the idea of Convention of States? And also some other conservatives?
    Sarah Palin is a Christian. She has respect for the beliefs of our Founding Fathers as well as the Bible.
    I know just being a conservative isn’t enough to be able to STAND against the pressure of SEEMING TRUE but undocumented, unBiblical ideas, especially if they are persistently brought up and aggressively promoted..
    If a person isn’t a Christian and doesn’t have the LIGHT of God right within (I didn’t have a clue about there even being such a thing until I was 27. Then I did give my life to Jesus —and what a change!!) they DON’T HAVE the help that comes with KNOWING GOD and also KNOWING HE WILL HELP.
    Those who do not know God (Jesus) personally through prayer, nor know God’s Word which gives us the ability to know the TRUTH on various important things, as a result, end up listening to and believing many wrong ideas.
    But Sarah Palin is a Christian, believes what the Bible says, and is a conservative.
    Do you think somehow she must have gotten some wrong information about what the Convention of States is really all about?
    Do you know?
    (PS I just realized I did not contact Sarah Palin herself to check and see if it is really true that she is promoting the Convention of States as a solution)

    With Jesus’ Compassion 4 America! (& the world!!)
    Love, Soteria (& Jesus!!)

    My little blogs (but BIG God!):
    http://www.Jesus2013Compassion4America.wordpress.com
    http://www.Jesus1000Compassion4America.blogspot.com

    Jesus Loves YOU!!
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    Comment by jesusvictorious | February 6, 2015 | Reply

    • Sarah’s heart may be in the right place – but she doesn’t seem to have much understanding of our Constitution; and like most Americans, she can’t think. As a People, we have lost the ability to think, reason, and analyze! We are shallow, and we never look under the surface of what we are told. WE DON’T KNOW how to think – we don’t even know that such an activity exists.

      No one who understands that our Constitution delegates only some 18-21 powers to the feds over the Country at large could possibly believe that the remedy, when a government has usurped thousands of powers not delegated, is to change the Constitution.

      That so many believe it shows that progressive education has so dumbded-down the American People that they are ripe for the institution of a full-fledged dictatorship.

      I expect Sarah jumped on Mark Levin’s bandwagon b/c he pretends to be on the conservative side, and Americans are too stupid to see the gap between his words [talk is cheap] and the inevitable consequences of his proposals and actions.

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | February 6, 2015 | Reply

      • sarah palin’s loyalties lie with a foreign country not with the USA Nuff said?

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        Comment by Gadsden Gurl | February 14, 2015 | Reply

        • I don’t know if Sarah Palin is just jumping on the bandwagon or if she understands the ramifications of a convention. Many people don’t think at all.
          She may have just seen this as “what conservatives are supposed to support”.
          Sigh.

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          Comment by Publius Huldah | February 14, 2015 | Reply

  7. Who the heck is this jackass, and what makes him think he’s more qualified than the founders? What are the problems that he sees? The problem with the Constitution is not the Constitution itself but with the fact that the Constitution is not being enforced. But when evil increases, and when the people seek their own hedonistic ends to the point of ignoring our country’s history, the Constitution becomes an enemy to the godless elites that ride herd over the rest of us.

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    Comment by crispinrobles | February 6, 2015 | Reply

    • Well, after I posted it, I was advised that he may have been pointing out the danger of a convention – sometimes we say the opposite of what we think so as to make a point: Eg., I oppose abortion and might sarcastically say to someone who supports it,”Yeah, right, we need to kill more babies in this Country.” That is the opposite of what I believe – but if someone heard me say that out of context, he might think I approve of baby-killing.
      So I have heard that such is what he actually meant.

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | February 6, 2015 | Reply

  8. At least this person is honest about it. Numerous congressmen have been hacking away at the Constitution for years without admitting it.

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    Comment by Henry Stevens | February 6, 2015 | Reply

    • I just got some new information see my update to the post.

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | February 6, 2015 | Reply

  9. I am not a Constitutional authority in all its nuances but I do re-read it about three times a year and read the Federalist papers from time to time. I am over 70 now and the young people I talk to can’t believe the number of things I used to do legally that are now illegal. They have no idea of the amount of freedom they have lost they never knew we once had…like slow-cooking the frog. Every time a law is passed you are restricted more. I have heard these arguments all my life and my father griped about the same thing when I was a child. Each administration is worse than the one before and even a fool can see the ultimate outcome. I foresee the eventuality of anarchy…from several fronts. I fear the ballot box is not a viable solution because it is like what Stalin said about allowing the people to vote…it doesn’t matter about who votes, only who counts the vote. Everyone now knows the last election was invalid. No politician cares about the Constitution even though they all give it lip service. My rep did not even know what the 2nd Amendment was/is.

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    Comment by Doug | February 6, 2015 | Reply

    • U.S. Rep. Joe Barton of Texas thinks the US Constitution has five Articles and that we have “at least 20 amendments” to the US Constitution. Yet he has been elected and re-elected to Congress some 14 times. What does that tell you about his constituents?

      My point is that WE THE PEOPLE can’t do our duty of electing to office virtuous men who know the Constitution if we ourselves do not know it.

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | February 7, 2015 | Reply

  10. Good morning PH

    When I read things like that, I cannot help but think of something Jefferson said:

    “in questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the constitution” –Thomas Jefferson,

    My bet is that when all is said and done, when all the hidden agendas and intentions are finally disclosed, we will learn that the aim of this exercise, with its high rhetoric was about nothing else than removing the chains of the Constitution in order to legitimize mischief, by those willing to do so at any cost to the nation today, the world, and our posterity.

    THAT should be noted.

    God bless
    MCE

    (For source document of Jefferson quote, see: https://jeffersonpapers.princeton.edu/selected-documents/jefferson%E2%80%99s-draft

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    Comment by M. Craig Elachie | February 6, 2015 | Reply

    • I think you should take the basket off your Light and write a paper about this….

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | February 6, 2015 | Reply

      • I agree! One more voice—one more with the LIGHT!
        The more the better!

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        Comment by jesusvictorious | February 6, 2015 | Reply

        • Thanks

          The question at this point it not whether someone else might accept that as a fact, but whether you do, right here and right now, and will act the truth of it. The diagnosis I is hardly mine. Psalm 2:

          “Why are the nations in an uproar
          And the peoples devising a vain thing?
          The kings of the earth take their stand
          And the rulers take counsel together
          Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,
          “Let us tear their fetters apart
          And cast away their cords from us!”

          God bless
          MCE

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          Comment by M. Craig Elachie | February 7, 2015 | Reply

          • Yes, I agree! The real problem was the same as in Jesus’ day (on earth) before then, and also now: People are BLINDED by the DEVIL, and it has been a progressive thing, increasingly more and more (wrongly) illegal to have the presence of God in our society. An excellent example was the outlawing of Prayer in public schools and then careful studies and documented evidence of ungodly behavior that has resulted from that one change. And then more!
            The Bible says “For lack of (revelation) knowledge My people are destroyed.” Ephesians 6:10-18 shows “Our battle is not against flesh and blood…” So if people don’t have revelation knowledge (the LIGHT on, I like to say) they CAN NOT “stand against the wiles of the evil one.” (Eph 6:10-18)
            But just as Jesus instructed Paul (formerly cruel persecutor Saul) as soon as he responded to the blinding Light, knocked off his horse, & said “Who art Thou Lord?” Jesus told Paul who He was and said “I’m sending you to OPEN THEIR EYES, and turn them from darkness to Light, and from the POWER of SATAN unto GOD, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in Me.” (Acts 26:18)
            Unbelievers (and any Christians lacking knowledge) NEED us to bring them the Light regarding the Glorious Gospel (what Jesus already got for us ALL!! Gospel=Glad Tidings!) and also unto the Light regarding America founded as a Christian nation and to the KNOWLEDGE of the writings of our Christian Founding Fathers which clearly show they knew the importance of keeping America a Christian nation!
            Yes, Freedom of Religion. But when the TRUTH of the TRUE religion, Christianity and Bible is taught, any false religions won’t get anywhere. They are nothing compared to the TRUE religion!! ALSO, what is false will be shown to be FALSE; as long as the TRUTH (Bible, public prayer, public preaching, freedom of speech, freedom to assemble, free press,, etc) is NOT OUTLAWED.
            Governments which outlaw (eg, control, tyranny) these freedoms are always ‘Devil created’ and demonic run governments (blinded people). Examples are Communism, Naziism, Islam—these always work to outlaw the TRUTH! Censor!! Not allow speaking against evil! Not allow dissenters!
            Yet, much HYPOCRISY—it is always LAWS against the Righteous, that somehow never apply to the ungodly! Just as in Jesus day!
            Yes, I agree with your seeing Psalm 2 at work today. I did too. But also, I believe we are in a Time of the Greatest Awakening the World has Ever Known!!
            The EVIL (very cruel!!) is of course, NOT GOD (as some people unfortunately think. Think God (Jesus) is like Allah Akbar!) but God, who foreknew the evil the devil would be lashing against God’s beloveds (all are! “He LOVED us while we were yet sinners.” Hurray!) to HURT GOD!!
            But God is bringing in the LIGHT in a BIG WAY through His Body (mostly) and with the big help of communication between people being greatly increased through the invention of the computer and the ‘world wide web’ (internet)!!
            “Seek and ye shall find!” (Mat 7:7) God stirs people to seek the TRUTH, especially AFTER WE SHOW them HIS KINDNESS and tell them who we have come to know (Jesus!! Yeah!!), and how He changed our lives!
            In many ways the Holy Spirit is helping people come to know Jesus, the TRUE GOD!!
            A GREAT AWAKENING is taking place at this time! DON’T MISS IT!! We could be so distracted by the horrendous cruelty of the enemy (very cruel!) that we don’t notice ALL THE PEOPLE GETTING THE LIGHT OF JESUS, and work with God to help them be discipled in sound doctrine, and teach them to tell others.
            BUT also, we need people doing what Publius is doing!! God has called her to that. And many, like me, to be active in my local Tea Party group, to RECLAIM our God-given rights of Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom to Assemble, Freedom of Press, etc.
            I believe He is guiding us to do that MUCH through the RECLAIMING of Americans operating from what is still the Law of the Land, our US Constitution!! Reclaiming our government is of God!! Jesus LOVES us!!
            Proverbs 29:2 says ” When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.”
            I’m GLAD there are people like Publius, you, me, and many, many more working with God to help get us out of mourning, and BACK INTO REJOICING!! Hallelujah!!

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            Comment by jesusvictorious | February 10, 2015 | Reply

            • Good morning
              Nice post.

              Re: “A GREAT AWAKENING is taking place at this time! DON’T MISS IT!! We could be so distracted by the horrendous cruelty of the enemy (very cruel!) that we don’t notice ALL THE PEOPLE GETTING THE LIGHT OF JESUS, and work with God to help them be discipled in sound doctrine, and teach them to tell others.”

              It is rare to come across someone who has even heard of a Great Awakening, and even rarer to find someone who can differentiate it from Revival, which of course, must come first. The latter being among the saved and then the former being among the lost. As one put it, “You cannot re-vive someone who has never been ‘vived’ in the first place.”

              So, if you will, could you elaborate on why you believe this is occurring…Revival and / or Great Awakening.

              I have long been of the contention that NOTHING less than that will do.

              God bless
              MCE

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              Comment by M. Craig Elachie | February 10, 2015 | Reply

  11. With a requirement that 2/3 of the states agree to have the convention in the first place, and 3/4 of the states needed to ratify any amendments, do we really have to be all that concerned about a runaway convention? I seriously doubt that there will ever be a state convention in the first place.

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    Comment by Jack | February 6, 2015 | Reply

    • Proponents of a convention do not want The People to know that at a convention, delegates are vested with that inherent sovereign right of a people to throw off their form of government. So Delegates to an Arv. V convention today can throw off our Constitution and propose a new one with a new method of ratification. That new method of ratification can be whatever the drafters want.
      If you want to know the TRUTH, read this and look up the hyperlinks:

      Delegates to an Article V Convention Can’t be Controlled by State Laws!

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      Comment by Publius Huldah | February 6, 2015 | Reply

      • Sorry, I don’t buy your argument for a lot of reasons: 1. Art V convention is to propose amendments to the Constitution; 2. If for some bizarre reason the Art V gets completely out of control and results in a new constitution there is no way 3/4 of the states will ratify it; and, 3. The situation we have now is not working, so do we really have that much at risk to try to fix what’s wrong with the federal government?

        Personally, I don’t believe the Art V Convention will even happen, and if it does and something actually comes out of it, who know how long it will take for ratification to take place – if ever. I think we constitutional conservatives ought to focus our time and resources on much more productive, and hopefully fruitful, efforts like emboldening state governments to flex their 10th Amendment muscles.

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        Comment by Jack | February 6, 2015 | Reply

        • Your comments display willful refusal to face Reality and the Facts of History. I have proved the relevant Facts with links to original source Documents. You ignore these proven Facts as if they don’t exist.

          In addition, note that you set yourself up as the Standard of Truth: You say, “I don’t buy your argument” – the issue is NOT whether YOU buy it – but whether what I say is True or False. If it is True, you must accept it if you are honest. If it is False, you must prove where I am wrong.

          You say, “Personally, I don’t believe…” Your beliefs are not relevant to this discussion.

          One of the signs of our moral & intellectual collapse is our fixation on our own precious & ignorant “opinions” in place of TRUTH and objective Reality.

          But in your case, I know you are merely parroting the COS dogma – all of you say the same thing – spout the same canned phrases….

          Our Framers advised States to NULLIFY unconstitutional acts of the federal government! But the States have connived with the federal usurpations b/c they got federal funds for doing so. The States are not victims of federal tyranny – they are enthusiastic participants in federal tyranny.

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          Comment by Publius Huldah | February 6, 2015 | Reply

          • Why do you keep adding words and make up theories that are not in the Constitution. It clearly states propose Amendments to THIS Constitution. I guess you forgot elementary sentence structuring.

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            Comment by Allen | February 7, 2015 | Reply

            • Why must you be insulting?

              Delegates to an Art. V convention are vested with that inherent sovereign right of a People to throw off their form of government. See the Declaration of Independence, 2nd para. Our Constitution of 1787 is our “Form” of government.

              Our Constitution of 1787 is our 2nd Constitution.
              The Articles of Confederation was our 1st Constitution.
              How did we get from the 1st to the 2nd? THERE WAS A CONVENTION TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO THE 1st CONSTITUTION.
              But instead of proposing amendments to the 1st Constitution, the Delegates wrote a 2nd Constitution.

              And they changed the mode of ratification: Whereas the Articles of Confederation required all of the then 13 States to ratify amendments to our 1st Constitution; our 2nd Constitution required only 9 of the states to ratify the 2nd Constitution.

              James Madison, and two former US Supreme Court Justices, have recognized that this same principle applies to an “amendments” convention called today: It is impossible to stop the Delegates – as the SOVEREIGN representatives of The People – from proposing a new constitution. And that new constitution will have its own mode of ratification: Such as in the proposed “Constitution for the Newstates of America” a Referendum called by the President.

              I have written of this – most recently here: https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/delegates-to-an-article-v-convention-cant-be-controlled-by-state-laws/

              I have found that COS supporters generally refuse to read anything except what COS writes! I hope you are different.

              Are you aware that George Soros, Marxist Law professors all over the Country, Cass Sunstein, and Eric Holder are also agitating for an Article V convention? They want a new Marxist Constitution in place by the year 2020. In order to impose it, they need a convention.

              The people you trust so much are deceiving you. Open your eyes.

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              Comment by Publius Huldah | February 8, 2015 | Reply

              • Publius,

                You can quote all the “original source documents” you want, but the problem is the federal government violates the Constitution all the time. What good is our Consitution if nobody obeys it? If a COA happens, and anything comes of it (both highly unlikely), what have we got to lose? Certainly not what’s left of our country. To think that 38 states can agree on much of anything is kind of a stretch.

                The federal government is corrupt and we are incapable of fixing it by conventional means (i.e. electing conservatives). My solution is to focus our time, money & resources on the states: electing more real constitutional consevatives to state office that aren’t afraid to challenge federal government lawlessness. All it will take is a handful of states to start pushing back resulting in a new government dynamic in this country.

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                Comment by Jack | February 8, 2015

              • Jack, read this and see if you can see what we have “got to lose” if there is a convention: https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/delegates-to-an-article-v-convention-cant-be-controlled-by-state-laws/

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                Comment by Publius Huldah | February 8, 2015

    • Never before have we faced such an unconstitutional federal government.

      Never before have we had so much anti-federal government sentiment.

      Never before have we had such ignorant, immoral elected officials at all levels of government.

      Given that, is it wise to assume anything? You can “seriously doubt” it all you want based on past experience, but this is not like anytime in the past, is it?

      Don’t be surprised if you wake up someday in a country with another name (Newstates of America), new borders (no longer “States”), and a new governing document………………….and all with or without your blessing!

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      Comment by Bob Hilliard | February 6, 2015 | Reply

    • Hi Jack

      Re: “do we really have to be all that concerned about a runaway convention?”

      Yes, we do. PH already wrote that the delegates (whoever they maybe) may draft an entirely new constitution with new ratification requirements. So the current ratification process is no safeguard at all at a convention. But even with 3/4 of the states needed for ratification, the states still have ratified horrible Amendments.

      It’s interesting how the COS Project tries to assuage our fears with the current ratification requirements while one of Mark Levin’s so-called “liberty” amendments is to allow for states to more easily amend the Constitution.

      I hope enough uncorrupted patriots still exist to thwart this latest coup de main, but the fact that so many Republicans are bold enough to come out in the light of day to promote fundamentally altering the Constitution is extremely alarming. Though not surprising considering how many of them are in the pockets of the American Legislative Exchange Council (A.L.E.C.) which is a major pusher of a Con Con.

      Here is a good list of “conservatives” in the media who are regurgitating the fallacious talking points of Mark Levin and the COS Project. Courtesy of Mark Levin himself.

      http://www.marklevinshow.com/common/page.php?pt=Reserve+Your+Copy+of+The+Liberty+Amendments&id=4183&is_corp=0

      As one can already see, there is nothing rinky-dink about this movement so it should be taken very seriously.

      ~BTG

      “Toward the preservation of your government and the permanency of your present happy state, it is requisite not only that you steadily discountenance irregular oppositions to its acknowledged authority, but also that you resist with care the spirit of innovation upon its principles, however specious the pretexts. One method of assault may be to effect in the forms of the Constitution alterations which will impair the energy of the system, and thus to undermine what can not be directly overthrown.” ~George Washington’s Farewell Address 1796

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