WHAT HAPPENS IF HILLARY DIES BEFORE THE ELECTION? WHAT HAPPENS IF SHE IS ELECTED, BUT DIES BEFORE TAKING OFFICE?

By Publius Huldah

The system we now use to elect presidents and vice presidents is unconstitutional. Our Constitution doesn’t permit political parties to hold primaries & national conventions to select nominees for their party.

Instead, the Electors of each State are to meet within their own State and THEY cast the votes for their State for president; and then in a second ballot, THEY cast the votes for their State for vice president. Then each group of Electors sends their list of persons voted for to the President of the Senate who, on a specified date, counts the votes.

The 12th Amendment specifies the procedures we are supposed to follow.

I have two papers on this: The most recent is here: https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/…/trashing-the-12th-am…/

The earlier article I wrote on this topic illustrates with examples, precisely how the voting for president and vice president is to be done: https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/national-popular-vote-goodbye-sweet-america/ and look under the subheading, The 12^th Amendment Establishes Procedures For Voting By Electors.

So the Constitution doesn’t address what happens if Hillary dies before the election, because under the Constitution, her nomination [like Trump’s] is unconstitutional.

We abandoned the Rule of Law long ago.

We are now under the Rule of Man. So the Democrat party will do whatever they want to do about replacing her if she dies before the election.

Section 3 of the XX Amendment addresses what happens if Hillary is elected but dies before she takes office: Tim Kaine will be President.

September 21, 2016 - Posted by Publius Huldah | 12th Amendment, 20th amendment, Election of President, Electoral College, Electors, Rule of Law, Rule of Man | 12th Amendment, 20th amendment, election of President, Electoral College, how is electoral college supposed to work?, Presidential electors, Publius Huldah, Rule of Law, Rule of Man, what if Hillary dies?

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I’m a little confused. How do the electors choose the person or person’s for president.
I get the states pick the method of choosing the electors. I get that the feds get to pick the time and dates to read the votes. But again how are they picking who they would or could vote for.

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Comment by Gary A. Blake | November 8, 2016 | Reply
- National Popular Vote: Goodbye, Sweet America.
  
  The linked article explains how our Constitution says the voting for President and Vice President by the Electors is supposed to take place.
  
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  Comment by Publius Huldah | November 9, 2016 | Reply
  - I’ve read your article, very helpful. But unfortunately it still doesn’t answer my question, so perhaps I’ll reword it.
    
    How do the electors know “WHO” they can vote for? For example when the electors were voting for John Adam and Thomas Jefferson, how did they know these men were available to be elected. Not only for president but also for vice president. I hope that makes sense. To put that into modern terms say the elector system worked the way it was supposed to. How would the electors know without the campaigns and election process of party candidates WHO is avaliable to vote for?
    
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    Comment by Gary A. Blake | November 19, 2016 | Reply
    - Try these two: https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/national-popular-vote-goodbye-sweet-america/
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      https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2016/02/19/trashing-the-12th-amendment-with-the-national-popular-vote/ and
      
      The Electors could vote for whomever they wanted. The mindset then was different than it is today. The Electors were to vote for the wisest and most virtuous men. And when elected, they served. Remember Cincinnatus!
      
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      Comment by Publius Huldah | November 19, 2016 | Reply
      - Just a hypothetical. Who would Publius Huldah nominate if she were a 12th amendment elector?
        
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        Comment by Gary A. Blake | November 24, 2016 | Reply
        
        Presidential electors don’t make “nominations”.
        
        Our Framers contemplated that they would cast the actual VOTES for President, and then in a separate ballot, cast the actual VOTES for Vice-President.
        
        But today, in most of the States, Presidential Electors are committed to vote for the presidential candidate who won the popular vote in their State.
        
        I am not aware of ANY – ANY – person in the public arena who seems to know – or care – what our federal Constitution says about anything. Our era is characterized by extraordinarily ignorant people who are enamored with their own opinions on matters of which they know absolutely nothing.
        
        But of all the candidates for the R nomination, I was always of the mind that Trump was the least objectionable. Partly for the reason that he has actually worked for a living and produced something and he has a spine.
        
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        Comment by Publius Huldah | November 24, 2016 | Reply
We should also remember that the American Revolution was fought by less than one third of the population of it was only a very small percentage of that third that actually engaged, and a still far smaller percentage of those who engaged who actually developed the revolution. We, as Americans, must find our like minded fellow citizens and form a single minded force to undo the elites that have systematically ignored and destroyed our Constitution. So many swear to defend and uphold it, yet immediately that they hold whatever office, quickly ignore it. Ben Franklin was perfect in his statement: “You have a republic, if you can keep it”. Evidently to this point, we have failed to keep it.

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Comment by Gratian | September 21, 2016 | Reply
- During our Revolution, England was the problem.
  
  But today, the American People are the problem.
  
  So I shudder at the thought of a revolution today in America. Americans are too lazy, apathetic, ignorant, immoral, and addicted to the federal handouts THEY are getting to bring about a successful revolution.
  
  We have the government the American People voted for.
  
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  Comment by Publius Huldah | September 21, 2016 | Reply
We the People must find a way to recover our Constitution and clean up the mess that has been foisted on us since President Wilson. The vast majority of problems we have today, I am convinced, are because we ignored the wisdom of the framers and put into place a centralized government that has illegally taken the powers once relegated to the states. We the people, through ignorance and laziness have allowed this to transpire. Unfortunately, the revolution initiated in 1776 must now be re-fought and it will be much more difficult.

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Comment by Gratian | September 21, 2016 | Reply
- But remember that the States were bribed with federal funds to go along with unconstitutional federal programs. The State governments are just as guilty as the federal government. My State, Tennessee, will do ANYTHING to get federal funds. Go here and see “select a State box” to see how much of your State’s revenue is federal bribe money: http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/multimedia/data-visualizations/2014/fiscal-50#ind1
  
  Almost 40% of Tennessee’s revenue for FY 2014 was from federal funds. e.g., TN was paid $500 MILLION to sign on to common core.
  
  Ultimately, WE THE PEOPLE are at fault because we keep electing to our State Legislatures people who will do ANYTHING to get federal funds.
  
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  Comment by Publius Huldah | September 21, 2016 | Reply
If you read the Constitution you will see that Publius is correct but we long ago abandoned the Constitutional process and today most do not even know the real way to elect a President and Vice President. We are supposed to have two separate selections. 1 for President and 1 for VP. This is what happens when we dumb down our children.

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Comment by brackenkaren | September 21, 2016 | Reply
- We do have two separate selections. I am not sure what you are contending here.
  
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  Comment by JJ | September 21, 2016 | Reply
  - What are you referring to?
    
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    Comment by Publius Huldah | September 21, 2016 | Reply
PH, your sober observation/analysis, while perfectly understandable, would be a bombshell if the People were somehow made aware of this. Wish there were some way to share this analysis with leading media heads. Also wish those media heads would take it seriously and share same with their audiences. But, alas, it is an idle hope. Thank you again for your faithfulness to the Constitution.

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Comment by Jim Delaney | September 21, 2016 | Reply
- The indifference to our Constitution is heartbreaking.
  
  But You can share the post wherever you can.
  
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  Comment by Publius Huldah | September 21, 2016 | Reply
Reblogged this on SiriusCoffee.

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Comment by Brad S. | September 21, 2016 | Reply
Lord, have mercy.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Publius-Huldah’s Blog wrote:

> Publius Huldah posted: “By Publius Huldah The system we now use to elect > presidents and vice presidents is unconstitutional. Our Constitution > doesn’t permit political parties to hold primaries & national conventions > to select nominees for their party. Instead, the Elec” >

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Comment by Karen Lees | September 21, 2016 | Reply
- Hello, Sis!
  Oh yes, I pray for mercy but fear He thinks, “Too late!”
  
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